Why I Rejected Christianity Review: Christianity’s Achilles Heel

People who have Loftus’s book will notice I skipped over a couple of chapters. I need to explain. Most anxiously, I’m sure some were looking forward to the review on the chapter on the Problem of Evil. I chose to not do that actually at this time because I have written a research paper on the topic focusing on natural evil and using Loftus’s arguments and explaining why I think they’re fallacious. It is being reviewed by some English major friends of mine and then I’ll edit it and turn it in and after I get it back, I plan on putting it up. It could be a month or two so there will be waiting. Rest assured though, it is one I am looking forward to.

There is also the chapter on Calvinism. I did not review that simply because I am not a Calvinist and I will leave it to the Calvinists to defend Calvinism. I will put up one critique of it though here. I was surprised because in all the writings that I found there, I did not find one quote from John Calvin. I would think a critique of Calvinism would include some of his statements.

For now though, we move to what Loftus calls the Achilles’ heel of Christianity. That is the difference between the modern mind and the ancient mind.

Odd. I find that the Achilles’ Heel of modernity. (What happened to that Outsiders Test?)

He says we must either canonize these standards that are primitive thinking, come to a half-way house in-between, or reject them.
Or we can just realize they’re not primitive thinking. It’s simply Chronological snobbery.

In speaking of the slave being beat for instance, Loftus doesn’t understand that discipline would be used at times and the owner was given the benefit of the doubt. It’s unlikely he’d want to kill a slave. (It’s also worth noting that this was for a theocracy.) Slavery in those days was hardly anything like it was in the Civil War period. In fact, it was Christianity that ended slavery. (Loftus. Go look up Bathilda, wife of Clovis II or get a book like “The Victory of Reason” by Rodney Stark.)

As for science, Loftus says science runs on the assumption that there is a natural explanation for every event. (Page 262) Yes friends. Watch that. It’s an assumption. I don’t see Loftus’s assertions here. I can see God working through natural events just as much as supernatural ones. Even with a grocery store down the street, I can still pray for my daily bread.

Let’s remember the main part though. This is an assumption? Can it be demonstrated? No. He takes it on faith. (Has he read C.S. Lewis’s essay on the Laws of Nature in God in the Dock?) Why should the world be granted as rational? Why should it be that my mind that is the result supposedly of an accident somehow corresponds to a world that is accidental as well? (For an excellent look at this, see Dinesh D’Souza’s “What’s So Great About Christianity?”

Of course, he complains about God in the Gaps. Loftus. Who was the first to despise the God of the Gaps idea? It was Christians! Check a Methodist layspeaker named Charles Coulson as an example. While I am generally against it, let something be admitted. If God did do something fiat, then we are not going to be able to close that gap. We should not ask “What is the best natural explanation for X?” but “What is the best explanation?”

As Loftus goes on, it’s more of the chronological snobbery that we’ve already seen and dealt with. If this is the Achilles’ heel, we are in good hands.

10 Responses to “Why I Rejected Christianity Review: Christianity’s Achilles Heel”

  1. John W. Loftus Says:

    How can anyone say Christianity ended slavery? Why are apologists silent about the fact that it didn’t end it among Christianities which existed in the Byzantine Empire, Russia, or Egypt? This fact alone helps us see that cultural factors were the dominant ones. The progress of history is ending it (it’s not over yet, either).

    Ever actually read Leviticus 25, or Exodus 21:20-21, or where it says, “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live?” Your views about women, children, fathers, slaves, the church and the state are much different than the low context writings found in the Bible.

  2. J. P. Holding Says:

    The main reason there were no quotes of Calvin is because DJ lost all his Bill Watterson books.

    Educate yourself on slavery, DJ, and stop being so ignorant; we’ve only corrected you on this 100 billion times:

    http://www.classicapologetics.com/special/slaverevolt.html

    And please, stop being so stupid and pretending you read scholarly works. It is YOU who is low context as an American; the Bible is high context.

    The more you try to make yourself sound educated, the bigger a fool you make of yourself. :D

  3. apologianick Says:

    We can say it ended slavery because it’s true, whether it be Bathilda or Wilberforce. Again, go read the works and see.

    Also, give us your moral standard by which you condemn slavery. If you say it’s wrong, why?

  4. John W. Loftus Says:

    Yes, I got the high and the low mixed up. That must mean I’m wrong about everything else, right. Can I hear non-sequitur?

    Anyway, as I skimmed that link on slavery I saw nothing about Charles Hodge, John C. Calhoun, Edmund Ruffin, Thomas R.R. Cobb, James Henry Hammond, Alexander Stephens, A.T. Holmes, Cotton Mather, Samuel Cartwright, William J. Grayson, George Fitzhugh, Josiah C. Nott, John Henry Hopkins, Albert Taylor Bledsoe, Thorton Stringfellow, or George Armstrong. Nor did I see the Dred Scott v. Sandford Supreme Court decision.

    If that site is to be even-handed and fair, then why are these people excluded? I’ll tell ya why..it’s not supposed to be fair. It purports to be completely one-sided and if that’s the case then there is no reason to link to it, or if you do then at least say this is so.

    And Nick, where is YOUR moral standard by which you condemn slavery? I claim that your moral standard is the same one I have, but we’ve gone over this a 100 billion times.

    Sheesh.

    Idiots. Both. Are. You.

  5. John W. Loftus Says:

    Oops, looks like George Armstrong is there. But he was pro-slavery. Look at his exposition of the texts. It would be comething you could write, Holding.

  6. apologianick Says:

    Strange that we’re idiots since you had to update your book after dealing with “idiots.”

    My moral standard? It’s treating things as they really are and who we are and what we are comes from God. It’s also seen in the moral interaction going on in the Trinity. I don’t think you have a Trinity, unless you somehow want to count Dawkins, Hitchens, and Harris.

    And no, you’ve never gone over such a moral standard with me. You told me to read your blog. I did. There’s nothing there answering the question in the specific blog you linked me to. You came out and assumed human beings are valuable in atheism. Upon what basis do you make that assumption?

  7. J. P. Holding Says:

    Duh….ah….uh…..

    Just speakin’ DJ’s language there, sorry. :D

    >>>Yes, I got the high and the low mixed up. That must mean I’m wrong about everything else, right. Can I hear non-sequitur?

    No, you can hear, “incompetent twit” though. It’s just one small example of your career in fouling up even more spectacularly every time you open your yap.

    >>>Anyway, as I skimmed that link on slavery I saw nothing about Charles Hodge, John C. Calhoun, Edmund Ruffin, Thomas R.R. Cobb

    Duh ah….duh…uh. DJ, what and where was it said that this was an exhaustive collection of ALL putative Christian views on slavery? No, read the intro: ” Sure, some misplaced Christians tried to justify slavery, like John Henry Hopkins, but >>there were those who refuted Hopkins as well.<<>>I’ll tell ya why..it’s not supposed to be fair.

    Oh yeah? That’s a problem? So how about you let Nick and I post entries on your blog then?

    >>Oops, looks like George Armstrong is there. But he was pro-slavery.

    Shrug. I didn’t compile the collection; I’ll pass your comment on to the webmaster. Not that you’d know proper exegesis if it bit you on the butt.

  8. Samuel Skinner Says:

    Didn’t the Christians eliminate slavery whe it was unprofitable, reinstate it and them eliminate it again? Wouldn’t that imply they were complete and total pragmatists (800 AD 1100 AD 1800 AD)?

  9. apologianick Says:

    Got a source on that?

  10. J. P. Holding Says:

    Wikipedia probably.

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