Why I Rejected Christianity Review: Prophecy Part 4
Today, we finally conclude this section and tomorrow, that means we start looking at Hell. So how does Loftus wrap up his argument on prophecy?
Loftus is correct that the prophets were the ones that wrote “Thus sayeth the Lord” and others didn’t really do that. Is there any doubt in Jewish thought though that the words were not the words of God? There was no need to say it there. The prophets were saying it because they were standing out and announcing in the face of false prophets that they were giving the words of the Lord. Their writings weren’t seen as Scripture unless their prophecies came true.
Now we agree that prophecies are conditional in the sense that if people respond, God will not send his judgment. (Or if they are promised blessing and turn, he will not send it.) I don’t see the problem this poses with Deuteronomy 18. There would be prophecies that would clearly be seen as fixed. Some things did take place and the cases where they didn’t are the ones we do see a change on the part of the people.
We are told also that the OT prophecies weren’t much. They could be made by a newspaper columnist of the time. My thought to that is “Name one that would have been made that way.” I especially think of the destruction of Tyre being prophesied. What newspaper columnist in Judah would also write that the temple would fall to the Babylonians?
Loftus also wants to know that if God is telling the future, why not talk about DNA or a global network of computers? This is an argument from Sam Harris.
Right. God should have made prophecies centered on our time just to satisfy curiosity. Why would the church carry around a manuscript for 2,000 years talking about DNA? It would have been seen as nonsense by the church.
If the skeptics do not accept what is given, they won’t accept something else.
And it seems Loftus pretty much argues here the way he usually does. He’s started out with a weak case based on theology, thinking he’s trumped all others he gives a mild look at biblical prophecy, following that, he gives a small small small scattering of interpretations of the OT in the NT, and then thinks he’s refuted his case.
It doesn’t take a prophet to know we’re not convinced.
Apram08 30, 2007 at 10:12 PApr
If the skeptics do not accept what is given, they won’t accept something else.
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I think you grossly mischaracterize this. To convince people who are skeptics is indeed tough, given that they’ve adopted a position. I’d say to convince believers they are wrong is likewise tough to do.
What we’re talking about is people, silly. People do not accept what God purportedly has given. As evidence for this take the number of people who accept a different belief system spread out geographically around the globe.
Apram08 30, 2007 at 10:12 PApr
Yeah, and look at the people who freely disobey the Ten Commandments….duh ahh…
Apram08 30, 2007 at 10:12 PApr
Yes. People do not accept it. After he has spoken in his Son and they have refused to accept that, why should he give more?
Apram08 30, 2007 at 10:12 PApr
The drum you keep beating, Holding, is old monotone, and intellectually bankrupt.
Apram08 30, 2007 at 10:12 PApr
That drum you used to beat was morally bankrupt, DJ…and that makes it very relevant each time you whine about things like variations on belief, etc.
And it’s gonna be beat each time you try that.
Hey, be sure and check out the latest Christian Research Journal. I gave one of your buddies a good thumping. (hee hee)